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welcome back

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fade to black

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i am your host jimmy church tonight

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scott walter is here

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more on that in just a second i've got

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to update everybody on the schedule this

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week because

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tomorrow night is fader night not

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thursday so we're going to do open lines

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tomorrow night

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wednesday night holly marie is here and

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thursday night is a special broadcast

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with richard dolan

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and we had to shift everything around

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this week

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because of scott walter he's such a pain

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in the butt

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never that scott you just never you know

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you're not easy man but before before we

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get to that let me do a little

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introduction can i do an introduction

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yeah let's do something proper scott

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walter author host of america unearthed

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and has been president of the american

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petrographic services since 1990. he's

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responsible for the independent analysis

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testing uh of the kensington runestone

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which he brought forward in 2000 he's

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been the principal photographer in more

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than 5 000 investigations throughout the

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united states canada and puerto rico

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five thousand scott you're not even that

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old stop actually the numbers up to ten

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thousand so keep going okay

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including the evaluation of fire damage

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concrete at the pentagon following the

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attacks of september 11 2001 and tonight

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exclusively here on fade to black we are

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pre-empting all of the networks because

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exclusively we're going gonna discuss

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season four of america on earth

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and announce what we can expect with the

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premiere and future episodes i'd like to

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welcome back to fade to black the one

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and only scott walter scott how are you

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man

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i'm doing great jim i i'm i'm really

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doing good there's

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all kinds of stuff happening and i'm i'm

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excited to be here on your show and

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and uh talk about america under

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america on earth

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same thing season four well i i i was

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doing voice overs today yeah like for

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two hours and i

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you know how it gets you you're reading

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the script and you're talking you're

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trying to project and after a while

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everything just turns too much in your

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mouth you know you know you should um

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let me do your voiceovers

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that would be cool it'd be like um it

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would be like when

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when you see yourself is so freaking

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um i'm not gonna let you do it because

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they wouldn't even let me go near the

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place again oh man that's so funny

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voiceover is is is really really fun and

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when you do it for your own show um

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it and you get to add that color

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commentary and you you know you tend to

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be in control especially if you've got

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you know somebody directing you in the

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studio that isn't you know telling you

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you know what to do what to say and and

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that's really cool i really enjoy it

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well you know what i i do enjoy it but i

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do have somebody who's directing me

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i'm not a professional like you i mean

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you know i catch on relatively quickly

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but i i'm i'm not kidding i'm not

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a professional and when they're coaching

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realize that you know if it when it

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comes to rocks i can tell them what's

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going on but when it comes to

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you know this type of thing um they're

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the pro and i have to just shut up well

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not shut up but i have to listen and

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take that coaching and you know

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there have been a few eppenheimers that

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uh recording booth because i get

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frustrated sometimes when i don't do

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what i think i can do but they they hang

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in there they have a lot of patience and

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uh and we get through it so

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um i have a lot of respect for people

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that use their voice

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for a living and and i'm not just trying

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pat you on the back i mean it's it's not

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as easy as people think there's a lot of

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work that goes into it because you're

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such a professional you've done it for

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so long it comes easy

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but it's not easy and and you know what

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i'm talking about i do i do i do um i i

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this is what it's like for me when i do

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voiceovers uh you know i'll be in the

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studio and the line i'll read the line

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the line is whatever uh so we're here to

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cover the conspiracy that is taking over

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the world and then then i'll hear it in

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my uh you know talk back okay now do it

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with a little more uh aggressiveness

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okay we're here to cover the conspiracy

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that is taking over the world it'll be

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identical right

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and i'll look it through the glass and

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there's like whatever it is just let him

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i i i only have one zone

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you know what i mean

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you're you're full throttle all the time

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he's got one

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one one shade of jimmy so now okay let's

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get straight to it scott we've got a lot

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to discuss tonight

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uh i want to say this that you never

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stop working and i do uh tend to start

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off every show with you no matter when

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or where we do it by throwing you under

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the bus and i'm going to do that i'm

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going to start off with that tonight in

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that you and i talked quite a few times

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not only this week but over the last

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and uh and every conversation

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that i have had with you whether you're

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out on location shooting or

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or whatever you you were working you

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were studying you were looking at

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photographs you had investigators over

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you're getting ready to go and shoot

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your your you know and and just like

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today uh one more conversation with you

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you were working do you ever i'm serious

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besides football

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do you ever take time off is your foot

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on the gas 24 7

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but there's just so much cool stuff

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and opportunities that i just have to

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none of us are getting any younger and

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as long as i still have my faculties and

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my health

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and my my drive to do these things yeah

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i'm going to keep

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my foot on the gas as much as i can now

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you know i have a moderator her name is

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janet and she will reel me in when it's

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necessary but she also understands that

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i was born

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a triple hd

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triple d uh quadruple the i mean i'm not

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happy unless i'm doing two or three

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lot of things done i don't know how good

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i'm not happy unless i'm busy and

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um i think that's just going to be how

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it is till i drop whenever that is well

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okay and then right before the show uh

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you had to stop the presses

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uh you need to get stuff into you know

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breaking news into uh your next book

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you've got to call your publisher you've

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got to hopefully get this into a new

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episode of the new show and blah blah

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blah that this is the

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what is it

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the presses on scott that

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well first off let's just back up for a

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you know the subject matter that is

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probably nearest and dearest to my heart

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is you know the knights templar the

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medieval order of knights templar the

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fugitives of the medieval knights

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templar order that came to north america

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clues and a bunch of evidence of their

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handed that obligation off to the modern

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day freemasons which i am now a part of

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and created this nation we now call the

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united states of america i mean that is

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of the work that i'm doing dominantly

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having said that i know what the story

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is i know what happened i know how it

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transpired but the point is is that you

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it's a great theory we're happy for me

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and all that but i have got to bring

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the best evidence i can to the table and

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if and there are not a lot of things out

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in the grand scheme if there are

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relatively few and when you have

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that suddenly

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presents a new face to you a new body of

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evidence that you missed or did not

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realize was there and then all of a

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sudden it's like holy crap

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i i just had to i had to jump on it and

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this happened yesterday after our last

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shoot when we were out on the east coast

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and we were looking at something that

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99 percent of the people that are

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listening right now have never heard of

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but they will hear a very soon and i

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can't tell you what it is specifically

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because it's in the show

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but what really happened

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in the field

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was brand new evidence that that that

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presented itself that we brought back we

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collected digitally

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we brought it back we analyzed it it had

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to be compiled for about a week and a

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and then we looked at that data

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yesterday janet and i and

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another guy by the name of jerry lutkin

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jerry lutkin uh is on the team that's

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working on the telpeop tomb he's been

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working on it for many years and he

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so this guy's you know he's dialed in

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he's a true scientist he's one of the

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most skeptical people i know but we

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analyzed this data and came

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to some startling conclusions that had

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to go into my book and will be presented

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on the show and it will be something

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that people are going to go damn that is

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cool does it involve

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rocks

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does it involve inscriptions

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yes

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from the freemasons

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no

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earlier than the freemasons

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correct

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yeah

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man

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and this this evidence was found and i

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love you scott i love you

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this was no you're doing good man what

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are you three for three now yeah that

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was pretty good that was pretty good it

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was pretty good i'll shut you down when

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you get too close don't worry

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it was it was uh it was

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unearthed

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here in the united states

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in america that is correct

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east coast

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yes

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northeast

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i can neither confirm nor deny okay so

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northeast

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um is it is it

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is it

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yes

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wow and and i'm just messing with you're

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getting too close i know i know i know i

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know i know i will say this and then i'm

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gonna stop it is an inscription really

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yeah and it's freaking it's a mind

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ah

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scott scott scott okay when you hear

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this whole story you're just you're just

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gonna go oh my god this is amazing you

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will i'm not and i'm not embellishing

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i'm not trying to blow this up

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it's

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you know why i'm excited yeah yeah i'm

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excited too and i'm excited for the new

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season

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correct okay absolutely well all right

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now let's go let's go let's preempt the

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networks uh let's let's let's talk about

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season four

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um all right well yeah and you're right

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the the network is going to be making an

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announcement this week

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and um you know they've been gracious

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enough to let you and i have our

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conversation here although i don't know

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if they could have stopped us anyway

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that's right i mean you and i go back a

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long ways and and seriously i really

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appreciate your support and your

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friendship and

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um it's it's it's great but um

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okay well

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scott let me jump in

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let's have some continuity here i'll try

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to get some continuity to our

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conversation which is impossible but uh

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okay so you've got a new home you have

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left h history channel what's your new

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network

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travel channel you're on the travel

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channel travel channels doing some

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exciting stuff these days

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yes they are they have

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um and and i don't want to sound like

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i'm an expert about the history of of

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travel channel because i'm not

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but my understanding is they've really

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kind of done

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a big shift in what they're from the

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programming that they've done

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historically

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to really delving into looking into

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historical mysteries which of course is

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right in my wheelhouse and i will tell

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you that the network executive that we

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work with

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um

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and he is a terrific guy i i met him for

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the first time last year last summer

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and man i thought i had a lot of energy

370
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this guy has some fantastic energy and

371
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he has always been a fan of the show

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and actually tried to bring us over to

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tr uh travel for a couple of years

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and was successful this past year and i

375
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could not be happier with him

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um we're back with

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committee films and andy and maria oz

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and a lot of the people that i worked

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with in the first three seasons

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uh it's been a reunion and we've pretty

381
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much picked up right where we left off

382
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but we had over a three year layoff and

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if you stop and think about it for a

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show to come back like that on a

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different network that's basically the

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same show

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i don't even know if i don't even know

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if that's ever happened before no i mean

389
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it probably has but i'm not aware of it

390
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and in a way

391
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you know i mean not to get too carried

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away but

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it's it's

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it's a resurrection

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of something that i thought was going

396
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pretty good and i felt like there was a

397
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lot of unfinished business and to have

398
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this opportunity again

399
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it's just amazing and and i'm i'm just

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thrilled i i don't know what else to say

401
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it's just amazing

402
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it's like getting the band back together

403
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it is no it is yeah

404
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they're literally getting the band back

405
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together and

406
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and you know i have to tell you when

407
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they um

408
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introduced me to the production company

409
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andy and maria had put together a little

410
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pitch reel it was like a pitch reel but

411
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it was like a well actually you guys saw

412
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it it's posted on facebook and it says

413
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sometimes

414
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you know things aren't finished

415
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sometimes and it was really done well it

416
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was dramatic and then

417
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everybody he called the they called the

418
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whole company in to watch this video

419
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and then i came walking in right when

420
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they showed me and everybody just went

421
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no

422
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right right right it was fantastic and

423
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it was emotional it was um

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it was it was it was something i'll

425
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:25,519
never forget and it's been it's been

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great ever since

427
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these people worked their butts off let

428
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me tell you now uh when's the premiere

429
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the premiere is may 28

430
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10 o'clock eastern time 9 central

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and

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the first episode

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i have seen

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and it's great

435
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and let me just say this okay i i the

436
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only thing i can tell you about this

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episode is one of the things that i have

438
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heard

439
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in the past about some of our other

440
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shows

441
00:17:02,150 --> 00:17:00,240
uh is people say and i don't agree with

442
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this because i think we find a ton of

443
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stuff on our show and we have in the

444
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past

445
00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:07,039
but some people say well you never find

446
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anything

447
00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:11,520
you know what in this first episode

448
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we find something and that's all i'm

449
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gonna say so

450
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okay um what what were some of the

451
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locations uh that you uh got to shoot in

452
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like the first episode uh where where

453
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are you guys

454
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well you know i've invested yeah yeah

455
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but but these are simple questions you

456
00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:34,640
know i could okay let me let me just

457
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take it easy on you scott

458
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i want to be surprised

459
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you know that but i will say this um

460
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i can i can name some of the states that

461
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we've been in sure

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california

463
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louisiana

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oregon

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minnesota

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um

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just about every state on the east coast

468
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um

469
00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:11,360
we are still going we have one more uh

470
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trip abroad we're going to be going to

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canada we've been to england scotland

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all in one awful i mean all over i mean

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wyoming

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[Music]

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00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:30,559
colorado um oh geez all over just

476
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pennsylvania i mean just

477
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really great locations great locations

478
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how many uh how many episodes

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10.

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you went to all of those states

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and countries for 10 episodes that's

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incredible i'm missing some i know i'm

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missing some but

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uh wisconsin i know we've been there

485
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illinois i mean we've been to

486
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i know there's more i just can't think

487
00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:58,160
of them all right now it's you know what

488
00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:00,320
happens is when you're you're doing this

489
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it everything becomes a blur

490
00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:04,880
and i will say this we have met some

491
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incredible people we've had some

492
00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:09,280
wonderful tipsters that have turned us

493
00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:11,679
on to some great mysteries

494
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:13,679
uh experts that we've had on the show

495
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have been fantastic you will see some

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familiar faces

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uh from past shows that we've had

498
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and you will also see some very famous

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people

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um

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well we'll talk about [\h__\h] heroes

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yeah we'll talk about some of them yeah

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we'll talk about some of them after the

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break

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um

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uh what i wanted to ask you

507
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which we'll discuss after the break too

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is it laid out the ten episodes is it

509
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one long quest

510
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or is each episode a stand-alone story

511
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they're all standalone stories

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now that having said that

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um

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for example this thing i was just

515
00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:57,520
talking about that's connected to the

516
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:00,000
knights templar that is just

517
00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:02,559
um in my mind i look at that episode

518
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:05,360
which is a standalone episode but it is

519
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:08,640
is really more of a chapter in a much

520
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bigger book

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00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:12,640
of episodes that we have already done on

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the knights templar and hopefully if

523
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we're lucky enough to get another season

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we will continue down that road so

525
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um and there are other episodes where we

526
00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:25,440
have similar subject matter we've looked

527
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at in the past but

528
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in in a from a completely different

529
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angle or perspective

530
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and

531
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who

532
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:38,559
is it you is it a team effort or is it

533
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:41,120
your producers well it's always a team

534
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:42,880
effort but some of the episodes are

535
00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:45,120
definitely what i call my stuff

536
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:47,200
some of the episodes are the production

537
00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:49,679
company and some of them are the network

538
00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:51,520
the network says hey we want to do shows

539
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,960
like like this

540
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and you know i probably you and i

541
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probably had a conversation like this

542
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before

543
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where back when i i did the first three

544
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:03,440
seasons there were some episodes that

545
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:04,720
quite frankly

546
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uh the subject matter was not something

547
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:08,240
that i wanted to do

548
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:10,799
and you know there were

549
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:12,640
you know they said well a lot of people

550
00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:14,400
that watch your show

551
00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:17,039
like this stuff well

552
00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:19,280
i thought about it and i go you know i

553
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:21,760
said i ask people to be open-minded

554
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:24,400
about the stuff that i feel is important

555
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:26,640
i think turnabout's fair play

556
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and

557
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you know

558
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and what always happens it happens every

559
00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:34,240
single time i might go into an

560
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:36,400
investigation thinking well

561
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:37,919
i'm not really sure how this is going to

562
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,159
turn out and then i get into it and all

563
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of a sudden i'm hooked

564
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and i start getting into it and

565
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something that

566
00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:47,120
you know there have been a few few

567
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:48,799
instances where i said ah this isn't

568
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,720
going to be interesting and i'll be

569
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,559
damned if it didn't turn out to be maybe

570
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:54,480
one of the best episodes

571
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:56,559
that we've done and it's really opened

572
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:57,679
my eyes

573
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:01,200
to a subject matter that you know i just

574
00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:03,520
didn't have an interest in before

575
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:05,760
now i'm interested so

576
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:07,760
let that be a lesson to me huh yeah

577
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,320
exactly but you know what you're not

578
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:12,559
getting any younger and the only time to

579
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:15,120
learn is now that's it you've always got

580
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:17,679
to keep your knowledge on let's take a

581
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:20,320
break right here scott this is fade to

582
00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:22,240
black i'm your host jimmy church tonight

583
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:24,559
scott walter exclusively here on fade to

584
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,159
black to talk about and announce season

585
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:30,480
four of america unearthed more with

586
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:32,400
scott right after this short break you

587
00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:35,360
can follow scott on twitter at real

588
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:38,159
scott walter because there are imitators

589
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:40,080
out there we'll be right back you're

590
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:43,120
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591
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592
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596
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597
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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

598
00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,640
jimmy church tonight scott walter is

599
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,320
here

600
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:04,559
we're talking tonight on fade to black

601
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:07,679
exclusively about season four of america

602
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:08,960
on earth

603
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:12,080
it is premiering may 28th

604
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:14,159
on the travel channel

605
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:15,120
now

606
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:19,280
scott right before the break uh we were

607
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:20,559
uh talking about some of the

608
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:22,400
personalities that are

609
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:26,000
featured in season four um tell us about

610
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,190
well let's see um

611
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:37,110
i haven't we haven't shot it yet but um

612
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:40,080
i do have to give a shout out to uh

613
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:43,039
one of my dear friends uh alan butler do

614
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:45,520
you know alan i do

615
00:23:51,270 --> 00:23:48,400
alan butler probably knows more about

616
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:51,280
the true ideology of the knights templar

617
00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:53,120
medieval order of knights templar than

618
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:55,039
anybody in the world

619
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:56,880
he is also one of the

620
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:59,039
most wonderful human beings i've ever

621
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:01,120
met

622
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:04,400
brilliant gracious funny

623
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:05,840
and um

624
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,320
i just love them so you will see

625
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:13,269
and uh of course if you see alan you

626
00:24:23,550 --> 00:24:21,269
let's put it this way alan butler would

627
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:23,560
not appear in a show about bigfoot no

628
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:25,760
[Laughter]

629
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,400
see um okay

630
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:30,320
when uh okay well

631
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,240
and who else i'm going to come back to

632
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:35,120
allen in just a second uh who else who

633
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:38,960
else is there is uh there is a woman

634
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,039
who is well known that is going to

635
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:43,440
appear in one of the episodes

636
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:44,799
um

637
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:48,320
she uh is actually quite famous and is

638
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:52,080
now running for a seat in congress

639
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:54,080
um and

640
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,390
i don't know how else to say it but she

641
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:02,159
got completely

642
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:06,640
screwed um she was a uh a spy

643
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,480
uh working for the u.s government and

644
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,480
she was outed back in i think it was

645
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:12,720
2004

646
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:15,520
for purely political reasons

647
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,000
and it was horrible and not only was it

648
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,320
and it was payback for

649
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,960
an article that her husband wrote

650
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:26,640
talking about

651
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,360
the bush administration and uh

652
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:31,679
some of the things that were going on

653
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:34,240
in uh the iraq war

654
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:37,039
and uh as payback uh dick cheney

655
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:38,880
specifically outed

656
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,360
valerie plame who was working as an

657
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,520
undercover agent and

658
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:45,840
um that was it for her her job was over

659
00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:48,720
her career was over and it was purely uh

660
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:51,279
political payback to her husband for the

661
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:52,559
article that he wrote that was

662
00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:55,120
absolutely true exposing some of the

663
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:57,679
corruption and things that were going on

664
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:59,120
at that time

665
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:00,480
um

666
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:02,880
valerie obviously is was not too happy

667
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:04,080
about that

668
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:05,440
and um

669
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,679
i'm i i it was funny because we shot

670
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:08,720
with her

671
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:10,880
and i i can't say

672
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,799
enough good things about her she was

673
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:14,640
wonderful she was professional she was

674
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,600
funny

675
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:17,120
and

676
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,360
we just had a great time together

677
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:20,799
and um

678
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:22,720
about a month and a half not even that

679
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:23,760
after

680
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,440
we wrapped with her

681
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,279
she announced that she was running first

682
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,159
for senate and then she switched and

683
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:32,640
she's running for congress and

684
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:36,000
down in new mexico so

685
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:37,760
i wish her all the luck in the world

686
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,960
she's

687
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,840
inc

688
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:41,200
she's

689
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:45,760
passionate um

690
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,640
you know i i the the i is

691
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:50,559
i can't say that i know her

692
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,400
super well but uh but the person i spent

693
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:56,400
a couple of days with and i talked to

694
00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:58,159
subsequent to that

695
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:59,840
we became friends

696
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:01,039
i think would make a great

697
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:02,960
representative in congress

698
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:04,640
and

699
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:06,640
i think we we need more women

700
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,720
represented in in government just in

701
00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:11,039
general i mean regardless of what

702
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:13,520
side of the aisle you're on um

703
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,640
we need we need more women there's half

704
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,880
half of our country is women so

705
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,640
i think it would probably make sense to

706
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:22,559
have more of them representing us in in

707
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:23,840
government

708
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:26,159
and and now the show was america

709
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:28,159
unearthed uh

710
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:30,000
what uh what does she bring to the

711
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:31,279
program

712
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:39,190
and i think this one is on the list i

713
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:40,799
got to be careful

714
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:43,440
well let's put it this way um you know

715
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:44,960
what she did

716
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,000
and you know our country has been around

717
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:50,799
for about 250 years now

718
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:55,590
you know

719
00:28:00,830 --> 00:27:57,760
spies have worked in our government ever

720
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:00,840
since the founding of our country and so

721
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:04,399
um that's part of our history and the

722
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,320
activities of these spies have done um a

723
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,159
lot more good for our government than

724
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:12,159
any of us will ever know because that's

725
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:14,080
the way it's supposed to be

726
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:17,279
but she does help me uncover

727
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:20,240
one of uh one of those spies that worked

728
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:23,440
for our government at a very very

729
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,320
critical time in our nation's history

730
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:28,559
it's a fantastic story

731
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:29,520
and

732
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:31,760
the mystery is to try to uncover who

733
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,679
this person was

734
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:35,600
and um

735
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:38,720
and i think we i think we nail it

736
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:39,760
the

737
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:44,640
i don't think people

738
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:47,600
really grasp what we're dealing with

739
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,399
here

740
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:50,399
but if you think about it and you go

741
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,240
back to like the bicentennial right 1976

742
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:57,120
bicentennial we've got a president

743
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:00,159
that is like 75 years old the country is

744
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:03,440
only 200 years old he's half the age of

745
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:10,310
and that's how young this country is

746
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:15,520
and i see it as a besides yourself uh

747
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:17,360
and a few other researchers out there

748
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:19,520
that that focus on the united states but

749
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:22,720
the united states america has always

750
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:24,640
been like the red-headed stepchild when

751
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:28,159
it comes to history and research

752
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:31,600
but in reality like your show america on

753
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:34,640
earth it's the gift that keeps on giving

754
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:37,760
there is so much to discover here isn't

755
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,120
there oh my gosh yes and and in so many

756
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:43,120
different fields i mean

757
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,760
um you know i've had people criticize me

758
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:47,440
and say well you're not a historian

759
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,880
you're a geologist you should be

760
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:51,120
sticking to the rocks and i say well

761
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:53,919
what does it take to be a historian

762
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:55,919
basically you know you have to read a

763
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,679
lot right

764
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,440
and immerse yourself into the subject

765
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:01,679
matter and depending on what the subject

766
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,240
is maybe you even go to some of those

767
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,799
places and spend time researching the

768
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:07,679
history

769
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,159
of those places of those people

770
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:12,320
uh of the people of the events that

771
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:13,279
occurred

772
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:16,559
and um you know and i've done that and

773
00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:19,440
and i've also spent time talking to the

774
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:22,320
world's experts on whatever subject it

775
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:25,520
is that we might be investigating so

776
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:27,919
um and and there are a mill i mean

777
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:28,640
there's

778
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:34,559
of stories of mysteries of questions

779
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:35,440
about

780
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,559
you know

781
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,960
our country that that would go on long

782
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:40,559
after i'm gone

783
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:42,799
but then think about the world as well

784
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,320
and that's one thing

785
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:46,799
that i think you're gonna see with um

786
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,520
our show in season four

787
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:51,840
is we're not landlocked investigating

788
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:52,960
questions

789
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,559
just here

790
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,799
we're looking at questions in in other

791
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,799
countries as well i mean these are

792
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:00,880
things that people in this country know

793
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:03,279
uh very well and i think are going to

794
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,960
find fascinating

795
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:06,960
they have connections here to the united

796
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,360
states but the central question we might

797
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:11,440
investigate in an episode isn't

798
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:14,159
necessarily based in the united states

799
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:16,480
and i love that because

800
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:18,320
there are all kinds of things going on

801
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:20,080
all around the world that i think people

802
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:21,360
in this country

803
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:23,200
uh would find fascinating and

804
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,760
interesting and worthy of investigating

805
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:27,200
and and we do

806
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:30,720
now uh going back to this uh new uh

807
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:33,440
artifact with the inscription on it

808
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:35,840
from the east coast uh what language is

809
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:44,549
[Applause]

810
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,440
well

811
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,200
let me flip it around on you there

812
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:49,360
hotshot oh you don't ask me the

813
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:51,120
questions wait a minute i know i know

814
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,039
you're the interviewer right but but i'm

815
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:55,679
i'm i got to do this to you okay

816
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:58,799
now this in this this is a fair question

817
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:00,880
i've already hinted that this thing has

818
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:03,120
to do with the knights templar okay

819
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,640
right so

820
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:07,279
i'm gonna give you an opportunity

821
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:10,320
to guess which language it is in i will

822
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:12,799
absolutely answer the question

823
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:16,640
yes or no but you only get one guess

824
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:17,360
so

825
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:19,279
put on your thinking cap

826
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:21,279
think about the templars

827
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:34,020
what would it be in

828
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:39,110
[Laughter]

829
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:42,000
okay well see they wouldn't inscribe in

830
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:43,600
hebrew

831
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:45,120
they wouldn't

832
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:47,760
you

833
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:48,799
they wouldn't have egyptian

834
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:52,240
hieroglyphics it wouldn't be german it

835
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,750
english

836
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:00,230
hold on one sec let's just do a quick

837
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,279
templar 101 lesson the templars were

838
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,440
based in france their headquarters was

839
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:07,039
in france right you could make the

840
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:08,799
argument that there were more templar

841
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,760
knights

842
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:11,279
in france

843
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:12,640
um

844
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:15,360
you know on on an average basis year to

845
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:18,399
year throughout their existence well

846
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,000
throughout the uh

847
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:22,159
the the existence that everybody thinks

848
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:23,039
about

849
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,399
but um

850
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:26,320
but they were in

851
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,880
multiple countries literally dozens of

852
00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:30,640
countries all through europe into the

853
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:32,960
holy land all through scandinavia the

854
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:35,279
british isles i'm talking about that's

855
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,519
well documented so

856
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:39,760
i think sometimes people

857
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:41,760
and and rightly so think about the

858
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:44,799
templars in association with france but

859
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:46,240
um

860
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,000
they were all over the place in europe

861
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:50,399
and in the mediterranean region and into

862
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:53,440
scandinavia like i say and so

863
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,110
hmm okay so it's fair right okay is it

864
00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:04,080
an ancient script

865
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,159
i mean you know it's not going to be

866
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:08,879
cuneiform

867
00:34:14,669 --> 00:34:12,000
no right no it's not and and it's not

868
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:14,679
going to be some kind of nordic

869
00:34:23,950 --> 00:34:22,230
oh it is ah i didn't say that

870
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:23,960
i could not say that so it's

871
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:26,879
scandinavian root templars

872
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:29,119
nice try there pal that's pretty good

873
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:32,399
well okay now uh one last okay i'll

874
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:34,720
throw one more back at you could you

875
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:43,669
actually i could okay so it was runes

876
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:45,109
okay so

877
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:46,560
what do you think uh what do you think

878
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:50,320
the dating on this is is there a date

879
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,520
um

880
00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:53,200
it is not david

881
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:55,280
but i will tell you that i did some

882
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,160
geology on the stone

883
00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:00,480
i did some relative age weathering right

884
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:01,359
and

885
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:03,839
i think it's old i think it's

886
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:06,400
i think it's many hundreds of years old

887
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,119
okay now how uh

888
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,599
everybody wants to ask this question i'm

889
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:13,359
just gonna do it now

890
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:15,040
um

891
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,320
without i mean how do you date rocks

892
00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:20,560
this this okay okay

893
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:23,839
and specifically this one michio kaku

894
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:26,720
and i uh one day had a long conversation

895
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:27,599
about

896
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:32,320
you know a site down in in in bolivia

897
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:34,960
that was purported to be 15 000 years

898
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:36,960
old right with megalithic structures

899
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:39,760
he's like man it's the ice age man and

900
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:41,920
you can't date rocks

901
00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:44,079
and i said well wait a minute he said no

902
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:44,960
no

903
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:49,280
get into that conversation

904
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,560
and that's exactly

905
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:52,400
uh michio kaku

906
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,440
well

907
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,520
michio michio you gotta get you got to

908
00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:57,440
tap the brakes buddy because

909
00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:00,079
um well first off jimmy i i'm not trying

910
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,240
to be smart here but there's really two

911
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,400
things we're talking about here one is

912
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,720
dating rocks is one thing the age of a

913
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,640
rock is a completely different thing

914
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:11,200
right we know how to do that okay what

915
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:14,800
we're talking about is dating

916
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,680
man-made impact on rocks that that's

917
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,760
sort of the collective thing like when

918
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,480
was standing stones put up or when were

919
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,400
standing stones put up when was an

920
00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:26,400
inscription card what were these

921
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:28,000
pictographs made when were these

922
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:29,760
petroglyphs made that's a different

923
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:33,680
question than the age of the rock right

924
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:36,160
so the age of the rocket could be a

925
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:38,240
billion years old or hundreds of million

926
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,079
or millions or whatever the age of the

927
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:42,640
rock is that's not the age that's not

928
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:43,920
what you're talking about you're talking

929
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:46,560
about something that human hands have

930
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:50,160
altered in rock and dating of that human

931
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,400
alteration whether it's an inscription

932
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:54,400
standing still whatever that's a

933
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:56,000
different question does that make sense

934
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:57,680
yeah it does but

935
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:59,280
and you're not

936
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,240
looking at uh organic materials that are

937
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:04,079
in the grooves or anything you know

938
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:06,240
you're not you're not dating that

939
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,480
well in some cases you can

940
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,480
but that's the exception rather than the

941
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,880
rule right and you know i mean just to

942
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:14,880
give you sort of a brief synopsis of how

943
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:17,200
we go about doing that and let me just

944
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,200
first state that

945
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,440
there are many situations where people

946
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:23,760
will come to me with an inscribed stone

947
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:25,280
or or something

948
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:27,599
an inscription or whatever and they'll

949
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:30,800
say can you date this and the answer is

950
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,760
maybe

951
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:33,680
and in many cases

952
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:35,680
the answer is no i can't and and the

953
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:38,640
number one problem that i run into

954
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:41,839
is context provenance

955
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,079
where did this thing come from it's no

956
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:47,119
different than um an arrowhead right if

957
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:48,960
you go out the field and you find an

958
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:50,960
arrowhead and you pick it up out of the

959
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:51,839
ground

960
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:54,560
you're done now you might be able to say

961
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:57,119
something about its relative age based

962
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,560
on the style

963
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,560
of of the point

964
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,320
that's associated with a particular

965
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:04,480
culture with a particular time period

966
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,119
right but if it's in context and it's

967
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:09,599
collected within a horizon and there's

968
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,200
dateable material in that horizon

969
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:15,839
you potentially can nail that down

970
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:18,320
pretty close to when that thing fell

971
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:20,720
into that spot right right right once

972
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:22,640
you take it out of context it's

973
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:25,520
extremely if not completely impossible

974
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:28,560
to do so that's the first thing so with

975
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:31,040
this wavelength on rocks like this one

976
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:33,119
that i'm talking about right

977
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:37,119
first thing i need to do

978
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,280
is look at the context

979
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:41,599
i will say this much

980
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:44,480
it's carved in the bedrock

981
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:47,680
so context i understand

982
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:50,800
that is number one thing that is is is i

983
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,240
know where it's been

984
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,240
since the day it was carved it has not

985
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:56,880
moved from that spot okay

986
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:58,320
so i know what the weathering

987
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:01,119
environment is like that's number one

988
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:02,880
that's the key thing

989
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,680
secondly i need to know exactly what

990
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:07,119
that rock is

991
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:09,200
and what it's made of what minerals are

992
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:10,720
in it

993
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:13,920
so i can then get a better sense of how

994
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:16,880
that rock is going to weather over time

995
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:19,839
in that particular environment make

996
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:22,000
sense

997
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:23,119
yes

998
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,480
so the rock is

999
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:29,040
you you've got the context because the

1000
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:33,520
rock has not been moved right and and if

1001
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,599
it's in a particular part of the country

1002
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:37,359
i can look at weather records for the

1003
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:39,839
last 100 years or whatever the the

1004
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,640
records uh we have are

1005
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:44,320
and you can presume that the weathering

1006
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,560
has probably been pretty consistent for

1007
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:48,480
however far back you think this thing

1008
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:51,920
might go so that is a known parameter

1009
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:54,720
and that's huge but if somebody sends me

1010
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:56,560
a picture of an artifact and they say

1011
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:58,720
you know and they say that they found it

1012
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,240
in new mexico well i believe them

1013
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,640
but that chain of custody if you will

1014
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:06,960
that provenance is broken

1015
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:08,800
and we will never ever be able to

1016
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,800
convince the scholars the skeptics

1017
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:13,200
whoever a hundred percent because we

1018
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,160
just don't have that documented and you

1019
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,480
know i and and i know people aren't

1020
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:20,160
trying to

1021
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,880
to to to do something wrong they're

1022
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:24,640
preserving it and they want to find out

1023
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:26,000
about it but

1024
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:27,680
you see the you see the conundrum we

1025
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:30,400
have here i do is it on private property

1026
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:37,270
i'm asking because uh you know hasn't

1027
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:39,839
been disturbed you know if it's public

1028
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:41,839
property there's a chance that

1029
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:42,800
you know

1030
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:45,200
a lot of people but if it's on private

1031
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,599
property it's not been disturbed it's

1032
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:49,599
it's more of a controlled environment

1033
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:50,480
right

1034
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:54,079
yes it's well um it's a consistent

1035
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:55,599
environment let me put it to you that

1036
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,560
way

1037
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,560
and i can tell you that it has gone

1038
00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:00,480
virtually unnoticed

1039
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,160
how and and

1040
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,560
so what do you do about provenance and

1041
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,560
something like this in that there's no

1042
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:08,640
public record of this

1043
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:10,720
from 50 years ago or a hundred years ago

1044
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:14,000
this is some oral history there's more

1045
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:15,359
okay

1046
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:19,440
and um and when you have something like

1047
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,480
this

1048
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:23,280
scott i'm i'm totally intrigued and once

1049
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:25,359
i get on the scent i just can't get off

1050
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:26,240
of it

1051
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:27,280
um

1052
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:28,960
well you got a bunch of people listening

1053
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:31,520
that are probably going go jimmy go get

1054
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:33,839
him get him

1055
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:36,319
how do you how do you get this vetted

1056
00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:38,319
how do you get it verified or are you

1057
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:39,680
the one to do the vetting and

1058
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:43,839
verification well quite frankly um

1059
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,319
yes i think i'm probably the best person

1060
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,640
in a position to vet this right and when

1061
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,480
you know when when it all comes out i

1062
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:52,480
think you'll understand why

1063
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:53,920
um

1064
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:55,280
the

1065
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,000
in in more ways than one not just my

1066
00:42:01,589 --> 00:42:00,079
geological background but my knowledge

1067
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:01,599
of the templars

1068
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:03,680
my knowledge of freemasonry although

1069
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:05,920
this is not a um

1070
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:07,920
you know this wasn't created by a

1071
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:09,440
freemason but

1072
00:42:11,589 --> 00:42:10,319
um

1073
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:11,599
there are

1074
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:14,319
things related to masonry that

1075
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,760
there are aspects of this thing that um

1076
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:19,119
as a mason

1077
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,160
as a a a person with with a deep

1078
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:24,720
interest in the esoteric aspects of

1079
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,160
freemasonry that i i i will say that i

1080
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,960
do see some of those things associated

1081
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:33,280
with this inscription and that has been

1082
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:37,119
extremely helpful and quite frankly um

1083
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,680
many scholars and i'm not trying to

1084
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:41,920
to take a shot at them i'm just going to

1085
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:44,560
state something that's a fact

1086
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:47,839
one of the things that i came to realize

1087
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:50,319
when i became a mason

1088
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,280
was

1089
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:53,280
that

1090
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:55,839
there are certain principles

1091
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:58,560
and and things in freemasonry

1092
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:01,359
um and especially in the esoteric

1093
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:04,720
aspects of of masonry

1094
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,160
that scholars just have no concept of

1095
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:09,839
and and you know

1096
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,359
i'm sure if there's any listening

1097
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,280
they're probably saying oh come on i can

1098
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,079
handle that stuff and the answer is

1099
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:18,240
i don't know if you can and the reason i

1100
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:20,160
say that is because

1101
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:22,319
when you become a mason

1102
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,280
or you join any one of

1103
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:27,599
uh many orders

1104
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,680
that take you through an initiation

1105
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:31,200
process

1106
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:32,480
where they

1107
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:35,599
enlighten you with new knowledge

1108
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,079
one of the things that happens

1109
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:41,200
that must happen and if it doesn't

1110
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:42,240
happen

1111
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,400
you will not be initiated and it will

1112
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:46,400
not happen

1113
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:49,599
is you need to

1114
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:53,119
you need to be truly humbled

1115
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,079
in other words you have to admit

1116
00:44:03,670 --> 00:43:58,240
that

1117
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:03,680
on you

1118
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:06,400
can only be received by you

1119
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,800
when you are

1120
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:10,880
mentally ready for it

1121
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:13,040
or as we say in masonry

1122
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,680
duly and truly prepared

1123
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:18,000
and what i'm getting at is that i wasn't

1124
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,960
ready to become a mason until i was into

1125
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,560
my 50s

1126
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:24,800
because i was not ready

1127
00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:27,280
to be humble truly humble

1128
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:29,599
and realize that there's so much that i

1129
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don't know

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and then be ready to truly ready to

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receive it

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and and i can tell you that

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one of the discoveries i made that i

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00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,119
publish in this book about the about the

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00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,839
cryptic code that i discovered in a

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00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:46,000
ritual

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00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,200
um

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00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:49,520
would never have happened

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00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:52,720
prior to my becoming initiated and it

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00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:55,839
was the key it was the final key to the

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mystery that unlocked the kensington

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00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,079
runestone and i can guarantee you there

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00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,640
isn't one scholar that i have interacted

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with in the 20 years i've been working

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00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,390
that will be ready

1146
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:12,960
to receive this information to truly

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00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:16,000
understand it and i i hope i'm not

1148
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:18,640
confusing you but does that make sense

1149
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:24,390
we'll talk about this when we come back

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after the break but one of the reasons

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00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,319
why

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00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,960
uh that you've been fighting this battle

1153
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,119
with scholars and all of those product

1154
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:35,440
professional academics out there

1155
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:38,720
is as soon as you bring up uh

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00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,880
that hyphenated word pre-columbian

1157
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:45,200
it's like all bets are off they they

1158
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,079
just don't want to go there and just

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like this artifact that is about to be

1160
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:52,640
revealed once again

1161
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,359
scott walter has got some exciting

1162
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,359
evidence that

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is it pre-columbian

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i i think it is i do i think it is so

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there you go right prepare for the

1166
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battle here we go

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00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:10,960
well you know what um i

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i don't know

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i don't i don't need i'm not i'm not

1170
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going to do any more battles because

1171
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what i'm going to do is i'm going to

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present the evidence right

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if they want to critique it

1174
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,240
fine if they can find

1175
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,800
issues with anything i've done fine tell

1176
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,280
me because if i've made a mistake i want

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to know and i'll fix it

1178
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because it's not about me being right

1179
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:37,200
it's about getting the right answer so

1180
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,280
i'm all ears but if all you want to do

1181
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:40,960
is just take shots at me because you

1182
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:43,440
don't like the results

1183
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:45,760
well then you can jump up you know where

1184
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:47,359
right right and that's the way it should

1185
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:51,599
be scott look what what what if

1186
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:54,160
you and others dealt with it in the

1187
00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:57,040
opposite way in that

1188
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:00,079
you didn't reveal what you found out

1189
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:01,839
well that's a crime

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that's it

1191
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yeah that's that's

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00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:06,000
the other way let me tell you i

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absolutely have

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00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:09,839
you know and isn't that isn't that the

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00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:10,720
point

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you know that

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00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:14,000
all of those critics and skeptics out

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00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,040
there

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what do they want they want silence and

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00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:18,560
censorship

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00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:21,119
and and that something that potentially

1202
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:22,079
could be

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00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:23,359
really cool

1204
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:25,520
and and help our history

1205
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,079
uh to be talked about or the opposite

1206
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,480
don't say anything about it because you

1207
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:32,960
know uh you're afraid of uh what's gonna

1208
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:36,079
happen on the back end that's the crime

1209
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:38,160
and that's when the skeptics win and

1210
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,839
that's what's wrong

1211
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:41,599
well that's not going to happen here you

1212
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:42,880
know that

1213
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:45,359
we're not going to let that happen pal

1214
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:49,119
no way no how and uh okay we're going to

1215
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,200
continue this uh when we come back and

1216
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:53,440
we'll continue of course talking about

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00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:55,599
season four of america unearthed i want

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to remind everybody it premieres may

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28th

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on the travel channel it's got a new

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home this is fade to black i'm your host

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00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:06,880
jimmy church more with scott walter host

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